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secretary clinton said "we've made it very clear that we cannot support any government that consists of hamas unless and until hamas adopts principles that have been well known to everyone for a number of years." the principles include recognizing the state of israel. shipley tellhami says the u.s. should be prepared to drop that insistence when it comes to political parties if it hopes to broker a peace deal. >> i think we should insist that any palestinian government-- whether it's hamas or whoever it is-- meet certain conditions including being against terrorism, meeting its international obligations with parties we never insist they meet certain obligations and i think we're going to have to reassess. the environment has changed. if there's still time far two-state solution we're on the last leg. >> warner: why the last leg? >> israelis and arabs no longer believe in the two-state solution. >> warner: during our recent trip in january, we found many palestinians who've lost belief in the peace process. nasser hantuni owns birds of peace, a pet shop just inside the west bank. he w
secretary clinton said "we've made it very clear that we cannot support any government that consists of hamas unless and until hamas adopts principles that have been well known to everyone for a number of years." the principles include recognizing the state of israel. shipley tellhami says the u.s. should be prepared to drop that insistence when it comes to political parties if it hopes to broker a peace deal. >> i think we should insist that any palestinian government-- whether...
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the clintons for decades now have been rather opportunistic. i would err on the side of tunism. >> why must we impute the most cynical motives. the fact 2004 to now the support for gay marriage went from 37% to 58%. most americans are evolving. you had a candidate mitt romney who wasn't evolving he revolved. >> bill: we do a comp place of compilation of polls. about 53. >> thank you. >> bill: there is no doubt many people have evolved whatever you call it why? >> because the world is changing. >> bill: that's b.s. why? why are people changing? >> i think the media may have a lot to do with it. >> bill: the media? >> people are seeing maybe there is is more exposure. >> bill: ellen degeneres pop culture, we like ellen. >> some people are becoming more accepting. >> bill: and you? >> and i also think this is a complicated issue. you can see both sides to a lot of it. a lot of people say and a lot of issues black and white. on this issue there is a lot of gray. people have gay members of their family and they want to see them have the same rights
the clintons for decades now have been rather opportunistic. i would err on the side of tunism. >> why must we impute the most cynical motives. the fact 2004 to now the support for gay marriage went from 37% to 58%. most americans are evolving. you had a candidate mitt romney who wasn't evolving he revolved. >> bill: we do a comp place of compilation of polls. about 53. >> thank you. >> bill: there is no doubt many people have evolved whatever you call it why? >>...
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americans and all americans. >> ifill: her husband, former president bill clinton, is now calling on the supreme court to overturn a federal ban on same-sex marriage that he signed in 1996. a challenge to that law is scheduled for court argument next week. recent surveys tracked the change in public opinion. 58% of those polled by the "washington post" and abc news now say it should be legal for gay couples to wed. as recently as seven years ago, 58% of americans told pollsters they oppose gay marriage the justices are also taking up a related issue this term. california's ban on same-sex marriage, proposition 8. the justice department argues that prop 8, as it is known, violates the constitution's guarantee of equal protection. but the hard-and-fast party line that once defined the issue appears to be fading. more than one hundred republicans have signed on to a legal brief arguing for reversal of the california law. but prop 8 supporters in a new brief filed with the court today argued that while political winds may be shifting, legalizing same-sex marriage offers a "genderless con
americans and all americans. >> ifill: her husband, former president bill clinton, is now calling on the supreme court to overturn a federal ban on same-sex marriage that he signed in 1996. a challenge to that law is scheduled for court argument next week. recent surveys tracked the change in public opinion. 58% of those polled by the "washington post" and abc news now say it should be legal for gay couples to wed. as recently as seven years ago, 58% of americans told pollsters...
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this is so clinton. makes perfect sense. >> first of all, bill clinton regards kentucky as a sub jurisdiction of political power. he won that state twice, last democrat to do so, he feels very much at home there. when i went to that dinner in kentucky that led to my story about judd, clinton was in charge. jerry lundigrin, father of allison grimes, supported hillary clinton heavily. gave to the clinton library, gives to all of hillary's things. when bill clinton came to that dinner, he privately met with allison and jerry, her father. allison is like the daughter of a mini establishment in the state. the further complicating factor is that, though, the lundigrin people are at war with the current governor -- >> that's too much. >> it's not too much. it's not too much. >> it all comes out in the wash. >> what judd has to hope is there's a fracture in the establishment of the democratic party. bill clinton will have to heal. >> bill clinton, very popular in the country. i think he's a stalking horse for hi
this is so clinton. makes perfect sense. >> first of all, bill clinton regards kentucky as a sub jurisdiction of political power. he won that state twice, last democrat to do so, he feels very much at home there. when i went to that dinner in kentucky that led to my story about judd, clinton was in charge. jerry lundigrin, father of allison grimes, supported hillary clinton heavily. gave to the clinton library, gives to all of hillary's things. when bill clinton came to that dinner, he...
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in the december of 1998, bill clinton became the first u.s. president to visit the palestinian authority, but it wasn't until ten years later that a u.s. president set foot in ramallah. met with president abbas in january 2008. if you've got a political trivia question, e-mail us at msnbc.com and we'll try to get it up here for you. and without a line. now that's a fast car. it's just another way you'll be traveling at the speed of hertz. 14 clubs. that's what they tell us a legal golf bag can hold. and while that leaves a little room for balls and tees, it doesn't leave room for much else. there's no room left for deadlines or conference calls. not a single pocket to hold the stress of the day, or the to-do list of tomorrow. only 14 clubs pick up the right one and drive it right down the middle of pure michigan. your trip begins at michigan.org. but i'm still stubbed up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus liquid gels speeds relief to your worst cold symptoms plus has a dec
in the december of 1998, bill clinton became the first u.s. president to visit the palestinian authority, but it wasn't until ten years later that a u.s. president set foot in ramallah. met with president abbas in january 2008. if you've got a political trivia question, e-mail us at msnbc.com and we'll try to get it up here for you. and without a line. now that's a fast car. it's just another way you'll be traveling at the speed of hertz. 14 clubs. that's what they tell us a legal golf bag can...
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bill clinton must think so. that's ahead. i don't make any decisions about who to hire without going to angie's list first. you'll find reviews on home repair to healthcare written by people just like you. with angie's list, i know who to call, and i know the results will be fantastic. angie's list -- reviews you can trust. but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting bronchodilator working together to help improve your lung function all day. advair won't replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms and should not be used more than twice a day. people with copd taking advair may have a higher chance of pneumonia. advair may increase your risk of osteoporosis and some eye problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking advair. if you're still having difficulty breathing, ask your doctor if incl
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with clinton. he paid a political price because israelis loved clinton. this is not the same with obama. the president would benefit from the trust from israelis even when he has disagreements with their prime minister. not to say the president owes israelis anything. he is not their president. he is the american one. they don't deserve his love. but it would be expedient for him to gain their trust when he disagrees with the prime minister, more than when he agrees with them. >> what message is teheran taking from all this? this visit today. and when we talk about iran a year or so away from having a nuclear weapon, are we inching closer toward a military conflict? we can't be sanctioning them any more than we already are. >> i think first, a very important point for both the prime minister and president is that teheran here a similar message. it is important because in a sense we have a game of chicken going on. iranians, if they are convinced that u.s. threat for use of force is credible, they a
with clinton. he paid a political price because israelis loved clinton. this is not the same with obama. the president would benefit from the trust from israelis even when he has disagreements with their prime minister. not to say the president owes israelis anything. he is not their president. he is the american one. they don't deserve his love. but it would be expedient for him to gain their trust when he disagrees with the prime minister, more than when he agrees with them. >> what...
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king hussein of jordan, almost an enemy, and the friendly bill clinton coming to israel and winning the hearts of israelis instantly, although their positions were very critical of israeli policy, definitely is a d saddat. the trick for president obama now, and i think this is exactly what he's trying to do. he says trying to clinton-ize himself, reach out and give the israelis the hug they did not get for four years. if this works, that lays the foundation for a renewed peace process, then he can come with the difficult stuff and say to israelis, i love you so much, i care for you, i stand by you, therefore you must act now and take some risks in order to improve your position, dealing with occupation and see the middle east as it is. >>> and the middle east as it is, you understand this region so well, post-arab spring, with the real danger on israel's doorstep, not only syria in civil war, but egypt in a potential meltdown of security t. how does he deal with that? >> i think think a fair, interesting and challenging moment. he challenges everybody. israelis must realize they have to
king hussein of jordan, almost an enemy, and the friendly bill clinton coming to israel and winning the hearts of israelis instantly, although their positions were very critical of israeli policy, definitely is a d saddat. the trick for president obama now, and i think this is exactly what he's trying to do. he says trying to clinton-ize himself, reach out and give the israelis the hug they did not get for four years. if this works, that lays the foundation for a renewed peace process, then he...
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there's bipartisan culpability that dates back to the clinton administration. just look at the scorecard and this is where the american people have to step up and understand what has happened and what we have to take on in terms of our accountability here. 134,000 iraqi civilians. not soldiers. 4500 of our own soldiers. 18 of soldiers who are veterans come back home are committing suicide on a daily basis. when you add the $2 trillion, we're talking about an extraordinary cost in human lives and resources and at the end of the day, we didn't have to do this and it wasn't effective. when you look at iraq now as a nation, it has not progressed in the way the liberators said it would progress. i hope the people open their eyes on this occasion to reflect very, very thoughtfully about what has occurred here and it's only doing the people of the united states who can make sure this never happens again. >> the justification on the other side has been look, saddam hussein was a monster. he was evil. getting rid of him was not a bad thing and if that was the ultimate c
there's bipartisan culpability that dates back to the clinton administration. just look at the scorecard and this is where the american people have to step up and understand what has happened and what we have to take on in terms of our accountability here. 134,000 iraqi civilians. not soldiers. 4500 of our own soldiers. 18 of soldiers who are veterans come back home are committing suicide on a daily basis. when you add the $2 trillion, we're talking about an extraordinary cost in human lives...
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clinton, herself, and others will send. a hacker who is reported to have broken into correspondence involving former presidents apparently has found a new target. confidential memos to hillary clinton from a former aide have been hacked according to the website smoking gun. the secret service says it is investigating. smoking gun says it has been in touch with the hacker known as guccifer. the memo which they say was in the e-mail of a former aide had information on the september attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, and smoking gun owned by turner broadcasting the parent firm of cnn could not provide someone to go on camera with us. sidney blumenthal who has not worked for the government for several years would not comment. cyber security expert michael sutton says this hacker has a diabolical method. >> he is not going after the individual that he ultimately wants to get to but, rather, the family and friends, the ones that are in communication with them, and of course if they're on the receiving end of the e-mail you
clinton, herself, and others will send. a hacker who is reported to have broken into correspondence involving former presidents apparently has found a new target. confidential memos to hillary clinton from a former aide have been hacked according to the website smoking gun. the secret service says it is investigating. smoking gun says it has been in touch with the hacker known as guccifer. the memo which they say was in the e-mail of a former aide had information on the september attack on the...
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there's bipartisan kulpaablety that dates back to the clinton administration. just look at the scorecard and this is where the american we're talking about an extraordinary cost in human lives and resources and at the end of the day, we didn't have to do this and it wasn't effective. when you look at iraq now as a nation, it has not progressed in the way the liberators said it would progress. i hope the people open their eyes on this occasion to reflect very, very thoughtfully about what has occurred here and it's only doing the people of the united states who can make sure this never happens again. >> the justification on the other side has been look, saddam hussein was a monster. he was evil. getting rid of him was not a bad thing and if that was the ultimate consequence of the iraq war, then so much the better. what do you say to that kind of twisted logic? >> i think there are many monsters, sadly, in the world as we both know and we don't go around invading sovereign countries that did no wrong to us in order to topple them and we have lots of monsters. we
there's bipartisan kulpaablety that dates back to the clinton administration. just look at the scorecard and this is where the american we're talking about an extraordinary cost in human lives and resources and at the end of the day, we didn't have to do this and it wasn't effective. when you look at iraq now as a nation, it has not progressed in the way the liberators said it would progress. i hope the people open their eyes on this occasion to reflect very, very thoughtfully about what has...
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clinton four times and bush in 2008. they went at a moment they were on the cusp -- and the president is coming to close a deal. >> this is about iran? >> there is no deal. >> i think he is sending a message to iran and israelis. i think he is trying to speak over the heads of israelis leaders and say to the israeli people give me time. i'm working on iran. give me time. i have your back, israel. >> is this about become? >> no, do that in the next block. >> this time it's personal. >> on the nation's debate on gun reform. president obama's initiative to reduce violence in america has been severely weakened. harry reid has announced the most controversial and ambitious part of the president's proposal a ban on assault weapons will not make the final cut when he brings the bill up for debate. >> but, right now, her amendment using the most optimistic numbers has less than 40 votes. that's not 60. i have to get something on the floor so we can have votes on that issue and the other issues i talked about and what i'm going t
clinton four times and bush in 2008. they went at a moment they were on the cusp -- and the president is coming to close a deal. >> this is about iran? >> there is no deal. >> i think he is sending a message to iran and israelis. i think he is trying to speak over the heads of israelis leaders and say to the israeli people give me time. i'm working on iran. give me time. i have your back, israel. >> is this about become? >> no, do that in the next block. >>...
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we've learned that hillary clinton and leon panetta both were pushing for more direct aid for opposition months ago. he has been resisting. it's a mess. how this plays out we may some day thank the president for not getting the u.s. involved, or we could look back and say he missed the opportunity. the possibility that someone has used chemical weapons has taken this to a far more dangerous level. >> michael: yes, it's the pressure of everything presidential decision when it relates to issues like these. a little silliness accompanies the trip to the israeli embassy. a video commemorating this visit, and take a look at this ridiculousness. >> welcome president obama to israel. we express our appreciation for what he has done for us. >> the bonds between the united states and israel are unbreakable ♪ thank you for being a friend ♪ travel down the road ♪ and back again ♪ your heart is true ♪ you're pal ♪ thank you for being ♪ a friend ♪ >> michael: eleanor, this goes back to my thinking that this entire trip is about just showing netanyahu and obama can be friends. >> i thi
we've learned that hillary clinton and leon panetta both were pushing for more direct aid for opposition months ago. he has been resisting. it's a mess. how this plays out we may some day thank the president for not getting the u.s. involved, or we could look back and say he missed the opportunity. the possibility that someone has used chemical weapons has taken this to a far more dangerous level. >> michael: yes, it's the pressure of everything presidential decision when it relates to...
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israelis talk about where is bill clinton? he came here four times as president. he was so deeply involved, we were both covering the white house in those days, in the camp david process and others, the israelis miss that, a guy who can draw the maps, president bush didn't get that involved. president obama hasn't gotten that involved. they're different people, personally and how they carry themselves politically and in their philosophies. the prime minister in cracking jokes when the president has landed is trying to say, i'm trying and now we'll see if the president is trying. >> we'll get back to jessica in a moment. tom foreman, this trip comes at a time when so many israelis feel increasingly vulnerable due in large part to the major political changes occurring in the region and their neighborhood. tom is taking a closer look at that region. what are you seeing, tom? >> john made references of being able to draw the map there. it is important to bear in mind the map here. look at where the president is visiting here, he's going to really a small part of a sma
israelis talk about where is bill clinton? he came here four times as president. he was so deeply involved, we were both covering the white house in those days, in the camp david process and others, the israelis miss that, a guy who can draw the maps, president bush didn't get that involved. president obama hasn't gotten that involved. they're different people, personally and how they carry themselves politically and in their philosophies. the prime minister in cracking jokes when the president...
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. >>> the last time the miami heat lost, hillary clinton was still secretary of state. putting the 23-game winning streak into perspective. that's our sports lead and that's next. uhh, it's my geico insurance id card, sir. it's digital, uh, pretty cool right? maybe. you know why i pulled you over today? because i'm a pig driving a convertible? tail light's out.. fix it. digital insurance id cards. just a click away with the geico mobile app. i honestly loved smoking, and i honestly didn't think i would ever quit. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. it reduces the urge to smoke. it put me at ease that you could smoke on the first week. [ male announcer ] some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix. if you notice any of these stop taking chantix and call your doctor right away. tell your doctor about any history of depression or other mental health problems, which could get worse while takin
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this was when bill clinton was president. finally he hit someone again and he came before my chord because that bumped up to being a felony. i understand. we took him to the board and released him, i often want to know, did you stick around long enough to watch them come across the border or did you drive away after you dropped them off? this is a huge problem. with each one of these federal felony convictions, it means we are paying for a prosecutor, law enforcement to get these people, then a prosecutor. we are paying for a defense attorney for them. we are paying for the officers for the prosecutor, the offices for the law enforcement, the judges, the appellate courts, and the number one conviction is for federal felony reentry after they have been deported? when i start thinking about that fact, it becomes pretty clear the best thing this administration could do for this country is secure the border so they do not have to keepre- catching the people who have already been deported. to heck with how much a wall costs or dro
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secretary of state hillary clinton herself said. jon: ambassador john bolton. aaron david miller, general jack keane, we have to say good-bye. thank you for your insight. just goes to show why this is such a thorny area of the world. thank you all. >> appreciate it. jon: the, video you were seeing there in that very small country an illustration how tiny israel is. president obama has already arrived at the home the prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, where with his left-handed signature there you see he is signing the guest book. there is prime minister netanyahu. jenna: trying to make out the words just to see what he is signing? jon: would be interesting to see what he is, good close-up by the camera crew but we don't know exactly what he is saying. at any rate the president on his first visit to israel as president. we will continue our coverage in just a moment. >> announcer: you never know when, but thieves can steal your identity and turn your life upside down. >> hi. >> hi. you know, i can save you 15% today if you open up a charge card account with us.
secretary of state hillary clinton herself said. jon: ambassador john bolton. aaron david miller, general jack keane, we have to say good-bye. thank you for your insight. just goes to show why this is such a thorny area of the world. thank you all. >> appreciate it. jon: the, video you were seeing there in that very small country an illustration how tiny israel is. president obama has already arrived at the home the prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, where with his left-handed signature...
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had al gore won or bill clinton been in office, they would have tried different terrorist tack tucks and built a long standing goal for a long time but i really felt like they thought bush was the right guy for this strategy to actually work because it's just like yelling a homophobic epithet in a gay bar. you can't fight him because his friends are in the bar. it's that simple. this is interesting imani, you have condoleezza rice and the p.d.b. and donald rumsfeld and you go to war with the known unknowns you don't know. caller: you go to war with the army you have, with the military you have, you want or whatever that quote was. that was so awful. hal: yeah. the unarmorred humvees that you have at the time. you wrote an article about glenn greenwold and others who seemed to take an attack on addressing anything who didn't -- well, further of all, they were for it before they were against it and anybody against it from the beginning but then doesn't necessarily play by their rules gets attacked. it's a very strange thingings the thing that bothers me about him and i'm gladly that i
had al gore won or bill clinton been in office, they would have tried different terrorist tack tucks and built a long standing goal for a long time but i really felt like they thought bush was the right guy for this strategy to actually work because it's just like yelling a homophobic epithet in a gay bar. you can't fight him because his friends are in the bar. it's that simple. this is interesting imani, you have condoleezza rice and the p.d.b. and donald rumsfeld and you go to war with the...
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i've been here in the past with president clinton, with president george w. bush, now president obama. in the past the israeli-palestinian conflict is always at the top of the agenda but given the event in this complicated neighborhood that is now more complicated and confused than ever, the israeli-palestinian conflict is down on the list. the president wants to share information and get information from his israeli counterparts about what's going on in syria. did the government in syria use chemical weapons against its own people. that's a big question. obviously the nuclear showdown with iran. the presidentister wants assurance if that diplomacy doesn't bear fruit that the president of the united states is prepared to put the military option on the table. and, yes, the president did say he wants to have peace in the holy land and he will make that a priority. no accident the president says that this is the first international trip of his second term. >> this is no accident. across this region, the winds of change bring both promise and peril. so i see this
i've been here in the past with president clinton, with president george w. bush, now president obama. in the past the israeli-palestinian conflict is always at the top of the agenda but given the event in this complicated neighborhood that is now more complicated and confused than ever, the israeli-palestinian conflict is down on the list. the president wants to share information and get information from his israeli counterparts about what's going on in syria. did the government in syria use...